tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2499771266402854669.post6628933305117657984..comments2024-02-08T01:44:24.272-05:00Comments on ModeratePoli: History for Amnesiacs: 2009 Bipartisanship FAILModeratePolihttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01721945380057992971noreply@blogger.comBlogger3125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2499771266402854669.post-37590926513316454562011-11-28T11:19:33.613-05:002011-11-28T11:19:33.613-05:00"All of the blame" for the tone or the e..."All of the blame" for the tone or the economy they left to the country after their tyrannical serve-the-weathly policies? I'd say 99% of the blame for the tone. "I won" is a statement of the accurate mandate the American people gave Obama and the Dems in the 2008 election. Of course, Rush and the GOP didn't like the result, so they immediately set out of vilify Obama and shift as much of the blame for current conditions to him, even though he inherited them.<br /><br />Recall that they blocked Al Franken from taking his seat on challenge after challenge, all to keep the Dems from getting 60 in the Senate (not that it would have made much of a difference with Lieberman or Nelson as "D"s). FOX launched the Teabaggers nonsense, having them scream at D-reps in town-halls with rude nonsense without assessing any blame to Bush and the GOP where it belonged.<br /><br />All of a sudden, the national debt became THE MOST IMPORTANT ISSUE, despite the GOP's total lack of real concern about it while they were spending money on the Medicare drug-handout to Big Pharma, launching two never-ending wars, building a huge "security" apparatus to keep people from taking water on airplanes and so forth ... Need I go on?<br /><br />And they IMMEDIATEALY attack President Obama, seeking his failure and distruction despite his winning 365 electoral votes in all parts of the country?<br /><br />They get 100% blame for uncivil "tone".<br /><br />Obama get some blame for the wrong direction of the country, say 25%. He should have been bolder with his agenda and rammed it through over GOP and some segments of the Democratic party as well. Yes, that includes some fiscal restraint and cuts as well. But first, you get rid of the tax cuts for the wealthy, invest in rebuilding the country which is definitely falling apart at the seams, means-test Medicare and even Social Security (like means-test the retirement age), and take on Wall Street and the insurance companies, who are the REAL villians in the financial collapse and the era that came before Obama.<br /><br />Oh, and he also should have investigated Bush-ear officals wherever it led on the torture. They would have kept his opponents on the defensive, if nothing else. (But, of course, there's other benefits beside political advantage for airing the dirty laundry of the previous administration, like enhancing our souls.)<br /><br />So Obama takes some blame for not turning things around, but the GOP could have and should have made it easier for him. Their job is not to serve their short- or long-term political goals. It is to serve their constituents and the coutnry as a whole. That's the epic FAIL that deserves rebuke. Obama's FAIL was well intentioned and likely to his political disadvantage. That was stupidity from who we thought was a smart man.<br /><br />BTW -- If the GOP wins, you get Rush Limbaugh and Grover Norquist calling the shots, no matter who is president. How ya' like them apples?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2499771266402854669.post-78620880248774633052011-11-25T18:00:41.475-05:002011-11-25T18:00:41.475-05:00@Anon, you said:
"Bad faith trumps any other...@Anon, you said:<br /><br />"Bad faith trumps any other assignments of 'blame'."<br /><br />Maybe, maybe not. I think my criticisms were fair. You don't really seem to saying that Obama was perfect. However, you are adamant that the Republicans should take all the blame.<br /><br />How many non-aligned people do you convince with that kind of attitude? I wouldn't go to you for a fair evaluation of a political question, that's for sure. <br /><br />Look back over your comment and tell me where you have any serious substance in it. Drain out the hate and see what's left, then we'll have something to discuss.ModeratePolihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01721945380057992971noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2499771266402854669.post-48412747490214155182011-11-24T22:32:11.075-05:002011-11-24T22:32:11.075-05:00"I won" was the best moment in Obama'..."I won" was the best moment in Obama's presidency. Was he spiking the ball? No. He was responding to the GOP's insistence on continuing to pursue Bush-era policies that Obama opposed, and he was claiming the mandate he had won. The GOP's job was to shut up and support the president fix the economy that their policies destroyed. Period!!<br /><br />But the GOP had already decided that they would follow Limbaugh agenda and try from the start to destroy Obama, even if the country had to remain in the dumper for his entire term.<br /><br />Weakness is the enemy of leadership. "I won" was not weak. He was standing up for the majority that elected him versus those who cared only about their benefactors.<br /><br />Obama's mistake was not forcing the Republicans to behave before trying to change the tone. Like it or not, the party out of power by the votes of Americans has to take a seat on the sidelines. They don't get to INSIST that their policies make it into the victorious party's agenda, and then when they do get some of what they want, vote against it anyway. That's call BAD FAITH.<br /><br />Instead of looking to assign blame in some sort of "moderate" allocation, look first for those who practiced bad faith and make THAT circumstance right. And that is 99% the GOP's role, not Obama's or even Congressional Dems. Bad faith trumps any other assignments of "blame".Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com